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  • On the Hop is a complex craps bet and it is not located on the table. In fact, this is a 'secret' bet that can let players win a lot more money than usual. Basically, this bet is almost the same as the Hard Way bet and Easy Way bet. The only difference is you get paid much more money than with the more common hard and easy way bets.
  • May 09, 2013 The bet: Hop 7s pays 15:1 per 7 combination, or 5:1. A $30 Hop 7s pays $150 + the winning $10 bet remains (-$20 on two losing bets). The worst paying instance is when the bet hits on the 9th number rolled. This means you have bet $30, $30, $30, $30, $30. The return is $160, for $150 bet. The 5 paying results are +$130, $100, $70, $40, $10 profits.
  • Sep 21, 2016 Hot Tip: If you must bet on a 7, don't make the any 7 bet, with a house edge of 16.67%. Instead, divide your bet by 3, and put 1/3 each on the 1-6, 2-5, and 3-4 hop bets. Instead, divide your bet by 3, and put 1/3 each on the 1-6, 2-5, and 3-4 hop bets.

The bet: Hop 7s pays 15:1 per 7 combination, or 5:1. A $30 Hop 7s pays $150 + the winning $10 bet remains (-$20 on two losing bets). The worst paying instance is when the bet hits on the 9th number rolled. This means you have bet $30, $30, $30, $30, $30. The return is $160, for $150 bet. The 5 paying results are +$130, $100, $70, $40, $10 profits.

Strategy 2 The $15-$6

Over the long haul in craps (do the math or check with a casino) 30% of craps games are decided on the come-out roll (fact). How? Simply, the shooter rolls a 7 or 11 or a craps number 2, 3, or 12. So keep that in mind. Over the long haul a 7 makes an appearance once every 6 rolls so it is quite possible that a shooter can string 2 or 3 7's together on the come-out roll. Game won, Next Game another 7, Game won and we are into the third come out roll of the shooter who has yet to roll a point. After all there are more ways to roll a seven than any other number. Check the Chart:

Left Die Right Die
5 2
2 5
3 4
4 3
6 1
1 6

There are 6 ways that the dice can land and show a '7.' No other number has so many ways to roll.

Betting this way always win on the come-out, but for a price one would think. So starting a new game with come-out roll with $15 on the pass line and $6 on 3-way craps is how 15-6 begins. One may think that my net gain would be only $27 after a come-out roll of 7 three times in a row because I would lose the $6 three-way craps bet 3 time for a loss of -$18. Hey, I would have won $45 if I had only bet the pass line. But that's not the way $15-6 works. Here's why you will win more than $45, just a little more than your friends who are just playing $15 on the pass line. Here is how that happens: It's all in the details:

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After the first come-out roll of 7, I bet $3 on hop the 7's, which is also called 'hop the reds' because many players do not like to hear the word for 7. Nonetheless, on the second come out 7, I won $13 from my $3 hop bet. Why $13? The hop the 7 bet pays 15 to 1 on a 7, there are 3 types of 7's: a 6-1, 5-2, 4-3. The game only considers that there are 3 ways to roll a 7 (4-3, 5-2, 6-1 and ignores what each die is doing ), paying $15 for any $1 on the 7 that comes out. Yet I lost the dollars on the other two ways to make a $7. So say the second come-out roll of a 7 was a 5-2, that means I lost the $1 bet on the 6-1 and the 5-2. So that's $13 more to add to my winnings from the pass line bet of 15 minus the loss of the 3 way craps bet that I make on every come-out roll.

So after the second roll of a 7 on the come-out, I am pressing the hop bet by $3 again to a $6 hop bet. That third come-out roll, a 6-1 gave me $26. After 3 Come-Out Rolls of 7, I won:

a. I won $9 from the pass line bet of $15 [ $15-$6] on the first Come-Out roll that I bet 15-6.
b. I won $13 on the 'Hop the 7's' bet on the second Come-Out roll
c. I won $26 on the 'Hop the 7's' bet on the third Come-Out roll

** Don't forget that you collected $18 from the pass line on come-out rolls two and three ($30-$12).

So my total win is more than $48 ($9+$13+26 and $18)- no, it's more than that: $66 Here's why. If I had been playing $15 pass line bets and nothing else, I would have won only $45. My friend looks at me and says, 'You won $21 more than I did on the 3 consecutive 7's even with the three-way craps bet. How did that happen?' One more time, don't forget to add in the $9 that I won twice on the second and third roll from the pass line (total of $18), I conclude the three come-out 7's with $66 ($48+$18). I counted the first $9 on the first come-out. $66 on 3-come-out 7's even though I lost the three-way craps bets (wow)!

So what do I do with the hop the 7 bet after the 3 come-out rolls that began and ended with a 7 on the come-out. Remember that I made the hop bet that hit twice on the 2nd and third come-out rolls. We agreed, 3 consecutive 7's on the come-out is really not that unusual. So if you are thinking I press the Hop the 7 Bet again on the 4th come-out , you are correct.

And that is the first part of playing $15-6, by an example of 3 come-out 7's on the pass line. Table de blackjack. In less than probably 5 minutes, I won $66 on three come-out 7's in a row. 'Not much of a difference from $45,' you say. Keep reading. It is a significant difference (admit it) and there's more good news to come.

So for me, I am the most secure player at the table on the come-out roll. Not fool proof at all, but this sequence occurs much more than you think. A Come-Out shooter rolling a few 7's in a row happens almost every time that I play. Of course, winning $66 instead of $45 because of three 7's in a row on the come-out roll is nice, but watch what happens if 3 craps numbers occur on 3 come-out rolls. Now we start to talk about much bigger money! THIS IS THE BIG PAYOFF FOR BETTING $15-$6 ON THE COME-OUT ROLL!

3 Come-out rolls in a row with craps numbers while playing $15-$6
1. a 12 is rolled. You win $60 from 3-way craps but subtract $19, the pass line and the $2 on the 3 and 2 for a total win of $41. Press 3-way craps by $6
2. a 3 is rolled on the next come-out. You win $60 with $4 on the 3 but subtract the pass line and $8 from the other craps winners for a total win of $37. Press 3-way craps by $3 after a win on a '3' . commonly called 'ace-deuce.'
3. Now you have $5 on all three craps numbers and to your luck, a '2' is rolled (snake eyes). You win $150 minus the pass line, minus the $10 bet on the other two craps numbers for a total win of $125.
Here were your 3 craps wins in a row
1. Net $41 on the come-out 12 after a $6 3-way craps bet
2. Net $37 on the come-out 3 after a $12 3-way craps bet
3. Net $125 on the come out 2 after a $15 3-way craps bet
Total win of $203 by playing 15-6 on three come-outs and 3 craps numbers are thrown: 12-3-2. Your friends playing just the pass line for $15 LOST $45 ON THESE 3 ROLLS! Winning $203 instead of losing $45, I bet that is a 'significant difference' that we all can agree on…

Strategy 3 SUPER HEDGE

1. If one is considering playing the super hedge system, then you should agree that winning a little money is much better than losing a lot of money. Winning a little is better than losing a lot. Agree at times? Of course.
2. Super Hedge becomes obvious to most Don't Pass players, but most will not use it because it limits the amount of money that one can win on a cold table. Here is the first example of Super Hedge:

a. The player has $6 on the Don't Pass line and the point rolled is a 4 or a 10. To Super Hedge the player places the 10 or the 4 for $5. So either the player will win $1 on a 7-out or the player will win $3 if a 4 or 10 is rolled. If a 7 is rolled, the $5 on the point is subtracted from the $6 on the Don't Pass. If the point is made, the 4 or the 10 in this example, subtract the loss of the Don't Pass Bet, $6, from the win $9 for a net win of $3.
See, the player cannot lose. Now let's up the betting.

b. With $11 on the Don't Pass line- if the point number rolled is a 10 or 4, place the 4 or 10 for $10. So the player will win $1 on a 7-out or $8 on the point number being rolled. Do you see how the Super Hedge ensures a win for the player either way. So let's consider other point numbers, the 5 or 9.

c. $6 on the Don't Pass line, place the 5 or 9 for $5. 7-Out gives a $1 win, 5 or 9 rolled creates a $1 win.

d. $6 on the Don't Pass line, place the 6 or 8 for $6. Either the player breaks even on a 7-out or wins $1 if the point is made as a 6 or 8 pays $7 if it hits.

How to win shooting craps at the casino. So you now understand that the Super Hedge just wins a little but does not lose for the player. So when would I play it.
I play it for two reasons. Let's say I won $450 playing craps numbers. i want to stay at the table but I do not want to put money at risk. I play Super Hedge. My second reason is cold and I have been playing the pass line and losing. I may go to Super Hedge until a hot shooter starts making points, then I will go back to 'smart craps.'

These are the main reasons for Super Hedge. Since I play craps at least twice weekly, I cannot afford to lost several hundred dollars every time that I go to a casino. This protects me. Either I will come home just a few dollars up or I play at a hot table and win bigger money playing smart craps.

Can I hedge the come-out playing Super Hedge. Sure. Just hop the 7's for $3 and a $1 yo and a $1 12. if I was doing this, I would play at least $11 on the Don't Pass if not a little more.

If you do hedge the come-out the way that I suggested, here is what will happen. Remember that the Don't Pass line wins on the come-out roll of 2 or 3 and pushes on a 12. So if you bet $1 on a 12. You are winning $30 if it hits on the one roll come-out.
If an 11 is rolled, you would lose the $11 on the Don't Pass line, but win $15 on the one roll 11. So you have a net win of $4. If a 7 is rolled, you lose the $11 on the Don't Pass line, but win $13 on the Hop the 7's hit for a net win of $2 ($13 gross win). If a 2 or 3 hits, the Don't Pass line wins $11 but loses the $5 in hedge bets for a net win of $5. Not so bad, is it?

ChumpChange
Should I bet $3 Hop 7's, and upon a win bet $15 Hop 7's, and not parlay anymore but just keep up the 2nd bet?
There's a 1 in 20.25 chance of hitting two 7's in a row. So if I win $75 after betting $61, I'd be $14 ahead.
If I hit a 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th 7 in a row, I just add $75 to my rail on each win.
When should I double my base bet? When I'm up 60 base bets (+$180), and regress when I'm under that?
When should I triple my base bet? When I'm up another 60 base bets (+$360 at the double bet level), and regress when I'm under that?
I just learned about Hop 7's last night, and I'm thinking of it like winning 2 number Keno.
ChumpChange
If I'm at a Max Bet $2000 Table, is betting $1200 Hop 7's ($400 per hop), then parlayed to $6000 Hop 7's ($2000 per hop), then paid off at $30,000 per 7 on the upper bet (plus 1 hop bet back); is that allowed or is there some other limit I'm missing?
mustangsally
Thanks for this post from:

If I'm at a Max Bet $2000 Table, is betting $1200 Hop 7's ($400 per hop), then parlayed to $6000 Hop 7's ($2000 per hop), then paid off at $30,000 per 7 on the upper bet (plus 1 hop bet back); is that allowed or is there some other limit I'm missing?

just about every craps table I played at (in the world) has a max amount that can be won from the prop bets (center table bets),
that is 3 times the table max at most casinos I have played at. (I am 100% certain not ALL do this)
so at $2k max table one could win max $6k
so for a 15 to 1 payoff that would be $400 max bet and for a 30 to 1 that would be a $200 max bet.
people that have money to burn make these bets often (like at high limit tables)
more people make max bets on the hardway bets (that I have noticed)
unless you have lots of cash
I doubt any table would allow you to make those $$$bets (in Las Vegas for sure no)
and I would also say most tables do not offer a 3 way 7 bet as they already have the great SEVEN bet
with the 16.67% house edge
the casino will love you even more
for making those very HIGH house edge bets
Sally
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mustangsally

Should I bet $3 Hop 7's,

omg, what makes You happy!
Quote: ChumpChange

There's a 1 in 20.25 chance of hitting two 7's in a row.

how did you arrive at that value?
the 7 has a 1 in 6 chance to roll

Hop 7 Bet Craps

so 2 in a row would be 1 in 6 * 1 in 6 or 1 in 36
yes?
no?
why not?
Sally
ChumpChange
Oh thanks. I must have confused the 7-11 chance of .2222 and squared that.
mustangsally

Oh thanks. I must have confused the 7-11 chance of .2222 and squared that.

yes, that is what I get for that.
36/8=4.5 so 1 in 4.5 * 1 in 4.5 = 1 in 20.25
when one bets for the 7 at craps, it wins only on a 7. sounds good.
I have been to many casino night parties and have seen many times newbies making the SEVEN bet (a one roll bet, btw) and thinking it should also win on an eleven (11)
must get the pass line rules mixed up
the 7/11 'Slurpee bet' is way different that the SEVEN bet
and the SEVEN bet is different from the 3way7 bet
thrilling when the number 7 rolls and someone bet on it!
of course,
the 7 only rolls on a come out roll or it is a 7 out roll.
Sally
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Joeman

and I would also say most tables do not offer a 3 way 7 bet as they already have the great SEVEN bet
with the 16.67% house edge

I don't doubt that most, if not all, tables won't have the '3-way 7' on the layout, but I have not played at a table where I couldn't toss $3 in the middle and ask the stick to 'Hop the Reds.'
Granted, I very rarely make this bet, so my sample size is very small.
'Dealer has 'rock'.. Pay 'paper!'
mustangsally

I don't doubt that most, if not all, tables won't have the '3-way 7' on the layout, but I have not played at a table where I couldn't toss $3 in the middle and ask the stick to 'Hop the Reds.'

I agree, it never hurts to ask.
the house edge for the SEVEN bet is 1/6
(it should pay 5 to 1 and a $1 bet should win and be down $6 but it pays 'only' 4 to 1 so a win bet is $5 and down so they keep $1/total down of $6 should be)
a $3 SEVEN bet has an expected value of -1/6 * $3 = -3/6 or -50 cents
for the Hop (6,1) there are 2 ways to win out of 36
so true odds should pay 17 to 1 (1 chance in 18)
most tables pay 15 to 1 (watch out for those 15 for 1!, really 14 to 1)

Hop 7 Bet Craps Machines

so true payoff for $1 bet = $18 and down
they only pay $16 and down (keeping $2)
house edge = -2/18 = -1/9 = -.1111..
so for 3, $1 bets to cover the '3 ways' the ev = $3 * -1/9 = -3/9 of a dollar (33.3 cents)
lower than the -50 cents ev for SEVEN bet only
still fun when the bet is made and it hits on the come out roll!
Sally
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ChumpChange
I was playing a little WinCraps and betting PL for $6, 1 Come bet for $6, and odds of $6, $8, $10. The machine kicked me down nearly $300 immediately. So I started putting $6 on the 3 Hop 7's ($18 total). After about 4 come-out losers (-$72), I hit 3 come-out winners in a row for 3x $90 = +$270!
Maybe it will work better if I make my odds pay $18 so I have something to bet on the come-out Hop 7's, lol, ouch.
If I was gonna press on a win, I'd add $2 to each hop 7 bet. Payouts would go up by $30 on each successive win.
I ran out of bankroll. I had 7 wins and 147 losses on the Hop 1-6 (-$140); 9 wins and 145 losses on the hop 2-5 (-$136); and 12 wins and 142 losses on the Hop 3-4 (+$224) for a total loss of $52. I still could have been positive with one more 7. EV says I should have lost $103 on each of those hops, or -$309.
But all my other $6 PL/Come $18 odds payout bets took me down well over $700. PSO not bet for a win.
Since WinCraps errors out while I'm trying to minimize the window when I'm reading my betting results, I get to go back to my game before I lost that session when I reopen WinCraps. So I either wasted my time or won back my bankroll a bit. No word if I'll roll the same numbers again.
So if I win 5 7's in a row starting with Hop the 7's for $18:, and adding $6 each time, the payouts would be:
$90, $120, $150, $180, $210 which cumulatively would be $90, $210, $360, $540, $750.
ChumpChange
Trying a new Hop 7's progression. Bet $3 x 3 on the Come-out., if I win, collect $45 +$3 bet back then double my bet to $6 x 3. Keep doubling. Waiting 40+ rolls for my first hit in most cases though, so I'd be down at least $9 x 40 = $360. But if I hit 3 in a row I'll get back $315 - $36 on next bet (doubling down with another $36 from getting my bet back) = $279 in the rail waiting for a 4th win, (or 8th win).
BetsWinCum Win
$9$45$45
$18$90$135
$36$180$315
$72$360$675
$150$750$1425
$300$1500$2925
$600$3000$5925
$1200$6000$11,925




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